{"id":25291,"date":"2014-12-09T08:42:45","date_gmt":"2014-12-09T07:42:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/norkhosq.net\/?p=25291"},"modified":"2014-12-09T08:57:01","modified_gmt":"2014-12-09T07:57:01","slug":"le-pen-i-admire-%e2%80%98cool-head%e2%80%99-putin%e2%80%99s-resistance-to-west%e2%80%99s-new-cold-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/norkhosq.net\/?p=25291","title":{"rendered":"Le Pen: I admire \u2018cool head\u2019 Putin\u2019s resistance to West\u2019s new Cold War"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\u0645\u0627\u0631\u06cc\u0646She has been the leader of the anti-immigration, anti-EU Front Nationale in France<\/a> since 2011 and has just been unanimously re-elected by her party at its annual conference. It won most French seats in the 2014 European elections and is poised to mount a serious challenge for the presidency in 2017. Marine Le Pen<\/a> spoke to Euronews\u2019 Sophie Desjardin.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nMarine Le Pen, the opinion polls continually have your party first among the opposition. What do you think when you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nI\u2019m preparing the great democratic upset that\u2019s going to happen in the next presidential election for sure. It\u2019s the aim of each one of us in the Front Nationale to do our utmost to win power so we can pursue our policies, not just to have power for itself, but to change the situation in our country.<\/p>\n

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SD<\/strong>
\nWhen you started your career as a lawyer, you sometimes defended foreigners who had no residency status. It seems you fought for their right to stay in France. What became of that Marine Le Pen?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nShe\u2019s still here! What you have to understand is that we can reasonably consider that a process is devastating for a country \u2013 which is the case for immigration \u2013 without wanting to make those who weren\u2019t responsible for the situation pay for the political choices of our leaders. We have always said we\u2019ve nothing against immigrants, but rather those who made them come here.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nYou talk about ending massive immigration, but, realistically, what are you going to do with those undocumented people already here and those who feel they have to come to Europe to save their lives?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nBut they can go home. I\u2019m here to save the skin of the French people. I do understand suffering, but I think first we have to tackle the causes. I would take the same approach as the Pope, that is, lay the situation at the door of the warmongers.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nBut if tomorrow you\u2019re elected, you\u2019ve told us you would stop all that. You went to Lampedusa, you saw the distress of these people. It\u2019s one thing to say \u2018stop the boats and send them home\u2019, but would you drive the boat?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nHave you been to Lampedusa?<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nYes.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nYou will have seen young people who come to work in Europe because they have been led to believe that there was work in Europe. Because we led them to believe that it was Eldorado. So, in a way, they are also victims of lies as much as the French people who suffer the consequences of this immigration, to whom we say \u2018could you make room because there are people coming\u2019. Well, no, we can\u2019t make room. We can\u2019t, because there\u2019s no more room.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nTurning to Europe, and to put it simply, you want France out of the eurozone and the EU. But if France alone were to leave the euro it would be hugely complicated.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nListen, I wouldn\u2019t be so sure about that because the countries that are outside the European Union are doing very well.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nBut they were never in in the first place, that\u2019s the difference.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nSo the moment you join you\u2019re condemned to stay?<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nNo, but it\u2019s more difficult to get out.
\nWe don\u2019t know because there\u2019s no precedent.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nBut that\u2019s because we\u2019re kind of guinea pigs in this experiment. They\u2019re trying to impose a kind of Europe on us which is not at all the one we were sold\u2026 and then afterwards they say \u2018Oops! we never thought about how you could get out.\u2019 There\u2019s a kind of amateurism in not having foreseen a process where one of the populations of the European Union people would want to leave this European Union.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nWhat do you think of someone who criticises their company?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nWell, that depends on the circumstances but if was done publicly, that wouldn\u2019t be very loyal.Why?<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nWell, what are you doing at the European Parliament, which contributes so much to your income?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nYou\u2019re very kind, madam, but I am not an employee. OK? I am not an employee of the European Union. I am an elected representative of the people. Excuse me! Excuse me! I\u2019m elected by my voters who strongly feel that the Front Nationale must have a maximum of representatives to protect them from the European Union.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nAre you ideologically close to Vladimir Putin?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nI share at least a part of Vladimir Putin\u2019s economic vision. That\u2019s for sure, but it didn\u2019t start yesterday.
\nThe Front Nationale has never changed its position on this subject. We welcomed the arrival of a government that did not serve the \u2018apparatchiks\u2019 ; and which developed a patriotic economy.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nYou\u2019ve said you have a certain admiration for him as a person.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nYes. I admire his cool head. Because there is a cold war being waged against him by the EU at the behest of United States, which is defending its own interests. I admire that he has managed to restore pride and contentment to a great nation that had been humiliated and persecuted for 70 years. Simple as that. I think that there are things you have to look on with a positive eye, or at least with an impartial eye .<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nWell, just on the reasons behind those tensions, a small number of countries have recognised the political situation in Crimea in relation to Russia. What about you. do you approve of the annexation?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>
\nAt the time that that referendum was organised there was no legitimate power in Ukraine. It was an illegitimate power, a putsch.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nIt was Viktor Yanukovich himself who left. No one forced him to go. He fled.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nYes, with a knife at his throat. I think if he had stayed he would have been eliminated. So, I think the referendum was organised in conditions that were not so contestable and that the will of Crimea to be part of Russia is not so contestable. The annexation to Ukraine was against the will of Crimea.\u201d<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nBut Ukraine didn\u2019t steal Crimea. It was Khrushchev who gave Crimea to Ukraine.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nYes, it was a gift. It was a gift, a gift. But I think Crimea would never have returned to Russia if the EU had not moved to recognise a government in Ukraine that was not, at the time, totally legitimate. The EU committed a serious error. In as much as there are highly dubious elements in this government, particularly a certain number of notorious Nazis.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nThey say that about your entourage also!<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nYou\u2019re joking, I hope! When I talk about Nazis in Ukraine, I\u2019m talking about Nazis, Nazis, meaning Nazis with Nazi flags. But once again history will prove us right! But it\u2019s alright, (sarcastically). I see, (you think), that there are nice Nazis. When they\u2019re Ukrainian they\u2019re \u2018nice\u2019 Nazis, not \u2018nasty\u2019 Nazis!<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve seen in the past governments condemned for brutalising their people, for firing on them. But that one in Kyiv is bombarding its own people, and no one is taking it to task.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nAre you for or against a coalition against the Islamic State?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nWell, I\u2019d first like to know if it would be effective. I\u2019d like to know who would be in this coalition. To be in a coalition with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, that would make me fall out of my chair. Because they are the countries who are financing Islamic fundamentalism. So to join a coalition with those countries would be just crazy.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nSo we should just leave it alone, the Islamic State?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nNo. I didn\u2019t say that. But first, do we have to stop ourselves from going into Syria to fight them? We tell ourselves \u2018we can\u2019t do that because that would help Bashar al Assad.\u2019<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nEven into Syria?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nOf course, in Syria! But obviously with the agreement of the Syrian government.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nSo you defend national sovereignty in Syria but not in Ukraine?<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nBut, Madam, in Ukraine no one has come in to force\u2026 once again\u2026<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong> (interrupts)
\nIn the same manner that some say they know Qatar aids and militarily finances the Islamic State, we know who helps the Ukrainian rebels.<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nWhen it\u2019s the Americans telling me that, please allow me to have my doubts. Besides, I doubt everything the Americans say. Is that clear? Whatever the Americans say say is questionable.<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nJust to finish, give us a word, adjective to describe these four personalities: Fran\u00e7ois Hollande<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nNot so soft as he appears!<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nAngela Merkel<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nAn Iron Lady<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nJean Claude Juncker<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nA sanctified hypocrite<\/p>\n

SD<\/strong>
\nBarack Obama<\/p>\n

MLP<\/strong>:
\nA disappointment<\/p>\n

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Marine Le Pen: \u201cWir haben keinen Platz mehr f\u00fcr Zuwanderer\u201d<\/a><\/h4>\n

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Seit 2011 ist Marine Le Pen<\/a> Chefin der rechtsgerichteten franz\u00f6sischen Partei Front National. Gerade wurde die Tochter des Parteigr\u00fcnders Jean-Marie Le Pen mit 100 Prozent der Stimmen im Amt best\u00e4tigt. Bei den Europawahlen holte die Partei die meisten franz\u00f6sischen Sitze und Le Pen werden f\u00fcr die Pr\u00e4sidentschaftswahl 2017 ernsthafte Chancen einger\u00e4umt. Wir haben mit ihr in Lyon gesprochen.<\/p>\n

Sophie Desjardin, euronews<\/strong>
\nMarine Le Pen, in den Umfragen sind Sie inzwischen die gr\u00f6\u00dfte Oppositionspartei. Denken Sie morgens beim Blick in den Spiegel daran?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nIch bereite die gro\u00dfe demokratische Ver\u00e4nderung vor, die bei der kommenden Pr\u00e4sidentschaftswahl mit Sicherheit eintreten wird. Das ist unser Anliegen beim Front National, jeder Einzelne von uns k\u00e4mpft daf\u00fcr, dass wir an die Macht kommen, um unsere Ideen umzusetzen. Es geht uns nicht um die Macht an sich, sondern wir wollen die Lage unseres Landes ver\u00e4ndern.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nZu Beginn Ihrer Karriere haben Sie als junge Anw\u00e4ltin irregul\u00e4re Einwanderer verteidigt. Sie haben, so scheint es, wirklich darum gek\u00e4mpft, dass diese Leute nicht abgeschoben wurden. Was ist aus dieser Marine Le Pen von damals geworden?<\/p>\n

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Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nSie ist immer noch da. Was man verstehen muss, ist, dass man einerseits ein Ereignis wie die Zuwanderung als verheerend f\u00fcr ein Land ansehen kann, ohne aber andererseits die Absicht zu haben, diejenigen daf\u00fcr zahlen zu lassen, die ja nichts f\u00fcr die Entscheidungen unserer politischen Anf\u00fchrer k\u00f6nnen. Sie sind ja nicht schuld an der Situation. Wir haben immer gesagt, wir haben nichts gegen Einwanderer, wir haben etwas gegen die, die sie hier herlocken.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nSie sprechen davon, die Massen-Zuwanderung zu beenden, aber was ist denn mit den Menschen, die illegal hier sind oder mit denen, die versuchen, nach Europa zu gelangen, um sich zu retten?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nSie m\u00fcssen nach Hause gehen. Ich bin da, um das franz\u00f6sische Volk zu retten. Ich verstehe, dass die Menschen leiden, aber ich will, dass wir vor allem anderen zun\u00e4chst einmal die Fluchtursachen beseitigen. Mein Standpunkt ist ein wenig wie der des Papstes. Das hei\u00dft, vor allem die Kriegstreiber zur Verantwortung zu ziehen.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nOk, nehmen wir an, Sie gewinnen morgen die Pr\u00e4sidentschaftswahl und beenden sofort die Zuwanderung. Sie waren doch auf Lampedusa und haben die Not der Fl\u00fcchtlinge dort erlebt. Es ist das eine zu sagen, wir mieten ein Boot und fahren sie alle heim, aber w\u00fcrden Sie das Boot steuern?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nWaren Sie auf Lampedusa?<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nJa.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nDann haben Sie ja die ganzen jungen Leute gesehen, die herkommen, um zu arbeiten, weil man ihnen vorgelogen hat, es g\u00e4be Arbeit f\u00fcr sie in Europa. Weil man ihnen erz\u00e4hlt hat, hier w\u00e4re das Eldorado. Und so sind sie auf eine Art Opfer derselben L\u00fcgen, die man auch dem franz\u00f6sischen Volk auftischt, das die Folgen dieser Zuwanderung tragen muss und dem man sagt: \u201ch\u00f6rt zu, k\u00f6nnt Ihr Platz machen, da sind noch ein paar Leute ankommen?\u201d Nat\u00fcrlich kann man denen aber nicht Platz machen! Denn es ist kein Platz mehr da.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nSprechen wir \u00fcber Europa. Vereinfacht gesagt bef\u00fcrworten Sie einen Austritt Frankreichs aus der EU und dem Euro. Aber wenn Frankreich alleine den Euro verl\u00e4sst, w\u00e4re das sehr kompliziert.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nSagen Sie das nicht zu laut, denn den L\u00e4ndern, die nicht in der EU sind, geht es damit sehr gut.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nJa, aber sie waren ja nie in der EU, das ist ein gro\u00dfer Unterschied.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nAh, das hei\u00dft also, sobald man drin ist, ist man dazu verdammt, zu bleiben, wollen Sie das sagen?<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nNein, aber es ist schwieriger, auszutreten.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nEs ist schwieriger, auszutreten\u2026<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\n\u2026au\u00dferdem wissen wir nicht, was passiert, weil es noch niemand versucht hat.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nDas ist genau das Problem, denn das Experiment besteht darin, uns als Versuchskaninchen zu benutzen. Das hei\u00dft, man hat uns eine europ\u00e4ische Konstruktion aufgezwungen, die in keiner Weise dem \u00e4hnelt, was man uns verkauft hatte. Und jetzt sagen sie uns: \u201cUps, nein, wir haben nicht \u00fcber Austrittsm\u00f6glichkeiten nachgedacht.\u201d Es ist ziemlich amateurhaft, dass man keine Verfahren eingeplant hat, das dem Willen eines der V\u00f6lker entspricht, dass man nicht einkalkuliert hat, dass wom\u00f6glich jemand aus dieser Union austreten will. Sie sehen also, dass diese Europ\u00e4ische Union wirklich wie ein Gef\u00e4ngnis angelegt wurde.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nWas halten Sie von jemandem, der das Unternehmen, in dem er arbeitet, kritisiert?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nDas h\u00e4ngt von den Umst\u00e4nden ab, aber wenn es \u00f6ffentlich geschieht, kann er nicht sehr loyal sein. Warum?<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nWas machen Sie also im Europaparlament? Sie beziehen von dort einen Gro\u00dfteil Ihrer Eink\u00fcnfte\u2026<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nDas ist sehr nett, Madame, aber ich bin keine Angestellte, ok? Ich bin keine Angestellte der EU, ich bin von den B\u00fcrgern gew\u00e4hlt\u2026<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nJa, aber\u2026<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nKein Ja, aber! Ich wurde von den B\u00fcrgern gew\u00e4hlt, die finden, dass der Front National so viele Abgeordnete wie m\u00f6glich haben muss, um sie vor der EU zu sch\u00fctzen.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nStehen Sie ideologisch Wladimir Putin nahe?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nMir gefallen Teile von Wladimir Putins wirtschaftlicher Vision, ganz klar. Aber das ist nicht erst seit gestern so. Der Front National hat seine Position in dieser Sache nie ver\u00e4ndert. Wir beobachten es nur mit einer gewissen Freude, dass in Moskau eine Regierung ist, die die Apparatschiks geschliffen hat und einen wirtschaftlichen Patriotismus entwickelt hat.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nSie sagten, sie hegten eine gewisse Bewunderung f\u00fcr Putin.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nJa, ich bewundere seinen k\u00fchlen Kopf, denn die EU f\u00fchrt unter dem Druck der USA einen Kalten Krieg gegen ihn. Die USA verteidigen hier ihre eigenen Interessen, das ist schwer zu ertragen. Ich bewundere es auch, dass er es geschafft hat, einer gro\u00dfen Nation, die 70 Jahre lang gedem\u00fctigt und unterdr\u00fcckt wurde, Stolz und Lebensfreude zur\u00fcckzugeben. Ich denke, es gibt einige Dinge, die man positiv betrachten muss, oder zumindest unparteiisch.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nSprechen wir \u00fcber einige der Gr\u00fcnde f\u00fcr den Streit. Wei\u00dfrussland, Syrien, Venezuela und Afghanistan haben die politische Situation der Krim als Teil Russlands mehr oder minder anerkannt. Wie stehen Sie dazu, bef\u00fcrworten Sie die Annexion?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nAls das Referendum abgehalten wurde, gab es keine legitime Regierung in der Ukraine. Das war eine illegitime Regierung; eine Putsch-Regierung.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nAber es war Viktor Janukowitsch, der gegangen ist. Niemand hat ihn gezwungen, zu gehen. Es ist geflohen.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nJa, sicherlich, mit einem Messer am Hals. Ich denke, w\u00e4re er geblieben, w\u00e4re er beseitigt worden. Daher denke ich, dass dieses Referendum unter Bedingungen abgehalten wurde, die man nicht wirklich in Frage stellen kann. Und der Wille der Krim, Teil Russlands zu werden, kann auch kaum in Frage gestellt werden. Die Annexion der Krim an die Ukraine wurde seinerzeit gegen den Willen der Menschen auf der Krim vollzogen.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nAber die Ukraine hat die Krim nicht geklaut. Chruschtschow hat der Ukraine die Krim vermacht.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nJa, genau, das war ein Geschenk, ja, ein Geschenk. Aber ich denke, die Krim w\u00e4re unter keinen Umst\u00e4nden zu Russland zur\u00fcckgekehrt, wenn die EU in der Ukraine nicht darauf gedr\u00e4ngt h\u00e4tte, eine Regierung anzuerkennen, die v\u00f6llig illegitimerweise da war. Die EU hat einen sehr schwerwiegenden Fehler begangen. Zumal in dieser Regierung inakzeptable Leute sitzen, ganz vorne eine ganze Reihe offenkundiger Nazis.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nDie soll es in Ihrer Umgebung auch geben\u2026<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nIch hoffe, Sie scherzen! Wenn ich von Nazis spreche, dann von Leuten wie denen in der Ukraine. Das sind wirkliche Nazis, das hei\u00dft, Nazis mit Nazi-Fahnen. Aber die Geschichte wird uns erneut recht gegeben. Aber ich sehe schon, alles halb so schlimm, denn das sind ja gute Nazis. Wenn es Ukrainer sind, sind es gute Nazis. In den vergangenen Jahren wurden Regierungen verurteilt, die brutal gegen ihr eigenes Volk vorgehen, die auf das Volk schie\u00dfen. Aber die Regierung in Kiew bombardiert ihr eigenes Volk. Und niemand regt sich dar\u00fcber auf.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nSind Sie f\u00fcr oder gegen eine Koalition gegen ISIL?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nIch w\u00fcrde gerne wissen, ob diese Koalition schon Wirkung zeigt. Ich w\u00fcrde gerne wissen, wer in dieser Koalition ist. Aber mit Katar und Saudi-Arabien in einer Koalition? Das kann ja wohl nicht wahr sein! Katar und Saudi-Arabien sind die L\u00e4nder, die den islamistischen Extremismus finanzieren. Mit diesen L\u00e4ndern in einer Koalition zu sein, ist schlicht Wahnsinn.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nAlso ISIL einfach machen lassen?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nNein, ich sage nicht, dass man sie einfach machen lassen soll, aber m\u00fcsste man dann nicht vor allem verhindern, dass man am Ende in Syrien gegen ISIL k\u00e4mpft? Denn man hat uns doch immer gesagt, das wolle man nicht, weil man so Gefahr laufe, Baschar al-Assad zu helfen.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nAlso auch in Syrien?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nNat\u00fcrlich auch in Syrien, aber nur mit dem Einverst\u00e4ndnis der syrischen Regierung.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nSie verteidigen also die nationale Souver\u00e4nit\u00e4t Syriens aber nicht die der Ukraine?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nAber Madame, in der Ukraine ist niemand gekommen, um mit Gewalt\u2026<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nAber wenn man so genau wei\u00df, dass Katar den ISIL-Terroristen finanziell und milit\u00e4risch hilft, wei\u00df man da nicht auch, wer den Rebellen in der Ukraine hilft?<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nEntschuldigen Sie bitte: Aber wenn die Amerikaner mir das sagen, dann gestatten Sie mir bitte, dass ich das anzweifle. Ich bezweifle \u00fcbrigens alles, was die Amerikaner sagen. Ist das klar? Alles, was die Amerikaner sagen, muss mit Vorsicht behandelt werden.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nZum Schluss, welche Adjektive fallen Ihnen zu folgenden vier Pers\u00f6nlichkeiten ein: Fran\u00e7ois Hollande.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nEin unechter Waschlappen.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nAngela Merkel.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nEine eiserne Dame.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nJean Claude Juncker.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nEin verfluchter Heuchler.<\/p>\n

euronews<\/strong>
\nBarack Obama.<\/p>\n

Marine Le Pen<\/strong>
\nEine Entt\u00e4uschung.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Copyright \u00a9 2014 euronews<\/strong><\/p>\n


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